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2012-2013 Line Pandora

12/13 Line Pandora

Ski: 2012-2013 Line Pandora, 172cm

Dimensions (mm): 142-115-139

Turn Radius: 15.5 meters

Boots / Bindings: Rossignol Radical World Cup 110 / Marker Griffon/ (DIN) 8

Mount Location: Factory Recommended

Test Location: Niseko, Japan

Days Skied: 5

(Editor’s Note: Our review was conducted on the 11/12 Pandora, which is unchanged for 12/13, except for the graphics.)

Given the width of the Line Pandora, I assumed that I would dedicate the bulk of this review to its powder chops, then spend the rest of my time commenting on its performance in other conditions that it wasn’t necessarily designed to excel in.

But after my first two days of skiing on the Pandora in powder, chop, and a few hardpacked bumps, I realized that the Pandora might actually be one of the most sturdy and fun all-mountain women’s ski available.

photo of the 2011 / 2012 Line Pandora

11/12 Line Pandora

The Pandora has a clean, twin tip shape, with similar dimensions in the tip and tail. Line, in collaboration with artist Clair Scully, designed a beautiful topsheet this season with an incredibly detailed blue octopus. The photo doesn’t really do it justice, and the 12/13 topsheet is fantastic, too.

Not that graphics are any indication of how a ski will perform, obviously, but a good-looking ski definitely appeals to me.

Not only did Line nail the graphics, they also nailed the design.

Unlike other all-mountain powder skis that have either full rocker profiles (e.g., the Volkl Kiku) or both tip and tail rocker (e.g., the Moment Bella, Black Diamond Element ), Line decided to forgo the tail rocker for the Pandora.

Here in Niseko, where we’ve been skiing fresh snow every day, the Pandora has provided adequate float, but has also handled firm, wind scoured sections of the mountain remarkably well, too.

I first skied the Pandora about a week into our trip. We had two extremely deep days when we first arrived, and I was hoping to have another similar day while I was on the Pandora.

Last Saturday, we went out with the Hanazono Powder Guides on their First Tracks program. Basically, we had the opportunity to take several runs before the lifts opened, with our guide, June, showing us plenty of sweet stashes. There was about 20cm of fresh snow stacked on top of the previous day’s fresh—and we were the only people in the vicinity.

For our first run we headed straight to Strawberry Fields, a local favorite. It’s a mix of open terrain and glades, with lots of fun, natural features.

Julia Van Raalte, Line Pandora, Niseko.

Julia Van Raalte, Strawberry Fields, Niseko Hanazono.

While there was new snow on top, there were sections where harder bumps could be felt beneath, and more variable conditions throughout the day. I started to pick my way down through the birch trees, warming up my legs and also getting a feel for the skis.

12 Comments

  1. Katie February 21, 2012 Reply

    I like your review but this ski most certainly has a rockered tail. It is not as exaggerated as the tip but it definitely has a few inches of rocker in the tail. The camber underfoot is nice and poppy. All of these pieces make this ski so fun.

    • Julia February 21, 2012 Reply

      Hi Katie,

      Thanks for your post. Although Line does describe the Pandora as having “early rise” in the tail, this rise is hardly discernable from a conventional twin tip tail, and actually has less rise than a number of non-rockered tails. All twin tips have some degree of rise in the tail, so the rise you see on the Pandora is a conventional feature of a twin tip shape. Hope this clarifies things!

      Julia

  2. Katie February 21, 2012 Reply

    As a person who works in a ski shop, I respectfully disagree. These undeniably have rocker in the tail.

  3. Hi, Katie, thanks for writing.

    In 2010/11, Line described the Pandora as having an early rise tip. For 2011/2012, the Pandora came back unchanged, except now Line’s spec bar says that it early rise tip and tail. But the Pandora remains like the 10/11 Sir Francis Bacon on which it was designed: no tail rocker.

    As Julia noted, any conventional, twinned tail is going to have a touch of rise, and the rise of the tail on the Pandora is actually set further back than say, the Line Mothership, which was always described by Line as a conventional twin, never as a ski with tail rocker. Having said that, technically, it’s correct to note that Pandora (nor any twin tip ski) doen’t just twin up at the absolute end of the tail, but that means that any twin could now be said to have early rise….

    So the Pandora has what we would still call a conventional, twin tail, but we wouldn’t quibble if someone wanted to call it a twinned tail with a tiny amount of early rise / rocker; the only worry is that the description might be misleading to someone who thinks that the Pandora is going to provide that looser, surfier feel of a truly rockered tail. Anyway, tomato / tomatoe.

    The good news is that people can just look at the camber profile we’ve posted on page 3, and see for themselves how much or how little “rocker” those tails actually have.

  4. Jay August 14, 2012 Reply

    A few “inches” of Rocker? Lolz

  5. Carolyn August 5, 2013 Reply

    If Im 5’1 and 115 pounds, what size should I get? 152?

    • Julia August 19, 2013 Reply

      Hi Carolyn,

      Would you be able to provide a little more information on your skiing ability and where you will mostly be skiing the Pandora? I am guessing you might appreciate the extra length of the 162, especially if you want the Pandora as a powder ski. Thanks!

      Julia

  6. Carol Blair November 5, 2013 Reply

    Does the 2012-2013 Line with the griffin graphic come in length less than 162
    I Am an expert tree skiir who absolutely loved the original K2 Phat luv and have been looking for a like “minded” ski since then…

    • Julia November 6, 2013 Reply

      Hi Carol,

      The 2012-2013 Pandora also comes in a 152cm. Thanks for reading!

      Julia

  7. Marie October 11, 2014 Reply

    Hello Julia,

    Thanks so much for your great review, looks like Japan was a blast! I’m looking for a new touring set-up and have been reading many of your reviews, which have been super helpful. I’d normally demo skis until I find the right fit but, alas, I no longer live in the mountains and I’d like to be set up before making my yearly pilgrimage back. So I’m hoping you can help me out with the decision.

    My current touring set-up is the 2008 BD Verdict, 170 cm 134-102-120. They’re great but I’m looking for something fatter in the waist and the poor things need to be retired anyway, for both our sakes. I ski everything on the mountain, spend about half my time in the resort, the other half in the backcountry. I didn’t grow up ski racing, nor do I charge hard, but I can keep up with those who do. I have a resort set up, the Faction Agent 174 cm 132-102-122 which I’m happy with and are fairly new, so I’m really just looking to replace my BC skis.

    I’m nervous about the fat waist. I’ve never skied on anything as big as the Pandora; is it a completely different way of skiing? Is it reserved for hard chargers? I’d normally opt for the 172 but should I downsize to balance the fatness? I first was looking at straight touring skis, G3s, Voiles, BDs, etc…but found that many of them weren’t that much lighter than the Pandora, and if they were, they might not be as solid on the downhill. I’m not looking to rando race, just for a lighter powder ski that can hold its own in big, all mountain terrain, without driving me off of it. Does the newer version of the Pandora fit my bill more so than the 12/13? You seem to have a strong preference for the older version, which I’ve heard the same from others as well.

    Is it silly to put Dynafit bindings on the Pandora? Any other skis come to mind you might recommend? Thanks so much for your input and for your great reviews, they’re super helpful!

    Cheers,
    Marie

    • Julia October 21, 2014 Reply

      Hi Marie!

      Thanks so much for reading! I wouldn’t be too nervous about a fatter waist for your new powder / backcountry ski – it’s really fun! I also don’t think you need to necessarily size down with the wider width. Having a longer ski for powder makes it a lot more fun, and and I think the low 170s would still be completely manageable for you.

      I actually have Dynafits mounted on my 12/13 Pandora and have been really enjoying that setup! Like you said, this isn’t a super-light setup for some long randonee race, but the ski’s weight has never been an issue on longer tours and the skis are so much fun on the way down. I would definitely recommend this setup.

      As I’m sure you’ve seen, the newer Pandora is a little narrower underfoot (110mm), but it’s also a very different design. I really like the new Pandora – it is a more versatile ski in a wider range of conditions, but doesn’t have quite as good powder performance as the older version. So, I think the new Pandora would still be a good touring ski, but if you want something that’s better in powder, I’d say go with the older version if you can find one.

      Another ski I’d recommend looking into as a touring ski would be the Rossignol Savory 7 (106mm underfoot). The Savory 7 is a really light, soft-snow oriented ski that is incredibly fun and easy to ski. And paired with Dynafits, you’d have an very light setup that would be great for powder. You could also check out the Star 7, which is 116 underfoot if you wanted fatter.

      I hope this is helpful, and please let me know if you have any more questions!

      Julia

  8. Marie January 30, 2016 Reply

    Hello Julia! Thanks so much for your response! I’m finding myself in the same search, rereading your reviews and just saw your answer to the question I posed a long time ago..Thanks for the advice, it’s super helpful!

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