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2012-2013 Moment Bibby Pro, 184cm

Review of the 12/13 Moment Bibby Pro, Blister Gear Review

12/13 Moment Bibby Pro

First Look

Ski: 2012-2013 Moment Bibby Pro

Dimensions (mm): 143-118-134

Actual Tip-to-Tail Length (straight tape pull): 182.0cm

BLISTER’s Measured Weight per Ski: 2,158 grams & 2,222 grams

Sidecut Radius: 24.5 meters

Boots / Bindings: Full Tilt Konflicts / Marker Jesters (DIN at 9)

Mount Location: Factory recommended line

Days Skied: 25+

(Editor’s Note: Our tests were conducted on the 10/11 Bibby Pro, which is unchanged for 11/12, and 12/13 except for the graphics.)

If you know Josh Bibby, you’re familiar with his friendly Canadian attitude and big mountain shredding. More likely to be dropping lines in the backcountry than throwing double flips in the park, Josh’s pro model ski caters to his favorite style of riding. At a substantial 118mm underfoot with a full aspen/pine wood core, the Bibby is set up to charge. Two days at Vail and Arapahoe Basin gave me the chance to put them to the test.

The word in the parking lot on February 5th at A-Basin was 5″ of light and dry snow since 5am that morning. As I headed up the Pallavicini lift, looking off to my right into the rock garden around West Turbo, it was clear that some generous wind-loading had deposited snow in the 10″ range on the leeward side of gullies. The conditions were fairly inconsistent from aspect to aspect. Things were fat in the trees, but a bit chopped and scoured in the bowls.

Looking down at the Bibbys, Moment’s trademark square-tipped design struck me as mean looking and confidence inspiring, with a stance similar to that of Rossignol’s Phantom Pro RC112. In terms of pure aesthetics, these boards scream “Send It!”

For the first couple runs, I decided to open things up with some big, fast turns under the Pali lift, down The Spine. Despite the new snow, the bumped out hardpack was still somewhat noticeable underneath, making for a nice testing ground for a ski’s dampening qualities. Riding the 184cms – a much shorter length than I’m used to with a ski of this girth – I wasn’t sure how the Bibbys would handle at higher speeds in a longer radius turn. The ride was impressively smooth and stable as 250mm of tip rocker helped blast over and through the chop. The Bibbys stiffness and dampening qualities showed in hitting drifts of harder, older snow, keeping the tips on track and the skis quiet under my feet. These skis love the fall line. Give them a chance to run, and with 5mm of camber underfoot, you’ll be nuking before you know it, yet still be able to shut down speed in a second. At no point did I feel like I needed a longer ski (the 184cms are the opposite of squirrely) and I was surprised at how eager the Bibbys felt. They’re very poppy for a big ski, I had a blast boosting off every little knuckle I could find.

Playing around in pockets of deeper snow on my way back to the lift, the Bibbys performance in untracked snow was in no way surprising. With a width of 142mm at the tip to ensure plenty of float and tapered profile to prevent any hooking, the Bibbys performance in pure fluff is stellar.

Waiting in the lift line after another four or five runs, one thing was certain: these things are solid and can charge. They will gladly push your speed limit and bomb over anything in sight. But how would the Bibbys handle in the trees? Could they make a quick move if I needed them to?

Looking for an answer, I traversed skier’s left off the Pali Lift and headed into the trees to the left of The Spine. At lower speeds the tip and tail rocker became more noticeable. The Bibbys felt livelier in tight, smeared turns than my K2 Kung Fujas (even though the K2s are considerably narrower, lighter, and worlds softer). For a ski of their size and stability at high speeds, the Bibbys are remarkably maneuverable, and ready for a quick change in direction. I could easily throw the whole ski sideways to scrub off speed in tight spots or bust a fun slash turn over a wind lip. I really came to appreciate their nimble characteristics in playing around on some pillows around 3rd Alley. Making short hop-turns to get into a line or committing to quick, critical moves was not a problem.

With 18″ of new snow the day prior, a morning at Vail gave me the opportunity to show the Bibbys some bigger drops and assess their swing weight in the air. The consensus: they’re pretty much stomp machines. The ski’s dampening quality takes the worry of sketchy take-offs out of the picture, while a solid platform underfoot adds some serious confidence for those flatter transitions. Carbon fiber stringers reinforce the core and contribute to the ski’s lightness. A backflip off the cornice in Rasputin’s Revenge discounted any doubts I might have had about the Bibbys performance in the air.

A key component to the Bibbys is their tail construction. I was happy to find that the tail rocker did not feel too prominent, and the skis were not prone to washing out. Bucked in the backseat on a landing or two, the added stiffness in the tail helped me get forward again with little trouble. Due to their “Mustache” profile with camber underfoot and rocker in the tip and tail, a neutral stance was by far the most comfortable on the Bibbys. With the small amount of true carving I have had the chance to do on them, I found that a more forward and aggressive drive of the ski didn’t seem to change much. For a person of my weight, overpowering these skis would be a feat. I found it easier just to stay strong and let the Bibbys run.

For now, in my book, the Bibby Pro receives top marks in all areas freeriding. For a person looking to take their big mountain skiing to another level, the Bibby can provide the confidence to do so, and they’re ready to handle anything you can throw down. Tell this ski what you want to do, and they will deliver

To be continued….

(Part 2 of Will’s Review, “Hardpack Performance,” can be found here.)

 

 

 

  1. alex February 21, 2011 Reply

    Yo Will, nice review. This is Alex from Vail that monday. I was wondering if you made an edit with that footage. if not, shoot me an email next time you blow off class for pow. Peace

  2. jeff November 2, 2011 Reply

    This site rocks! First day on your site and I’m hooked: all the reviews are great and I’m finding even more value from the comments and replies :) I’m currently in the market for powder skis and the local shop recommended Rossi S7s. I’m aggressive, love to hike and ski side-country, trees, bowls, shoots and smaller cliffs in and around resorts. I liked that the local shop suggested the S7 can pivot easily to get you through the trees and tight spaces as compared to the Volkl Gotama. But after reading your reviews of the S7 I’m skeptical, and after reading the comments/reviews on the Bibby Pro I am confident that I’ll love the Bibby Pros so much more than the S7s. Here’s why: 1) I don’t always get out on powder day and often have to live with skiing the leftovers the following weekend -> crud, tracked out, etc. 2) I ski fast and aggressive (former racer) and need something stable underfoot. 3) I ski around Tahoe and both Corn Snow and Sierra Cement are as much a fact of life as 4′ of fresh. Question is…@ 6′, 175lbs and an expert skier what size do I get…184cm? 190cm? 194cm? I’m at a loss having never skied a reverse cambered + rockered (mustache profile) ski before.

    • Hi Jeff, long and short: if you’re an expert skier and a former racer, Will Brown and I would both recommend the 190 Bibbys – unless you’re skiing a lot of bumps. But then again, why are you skiing a lot of bumps on a 116mm waisted ski, right? Will and I both own the 184 Bibbys…and both he and I have been spending more time on the 190s. Or just flip a coin. The 190 Bibbys are a couple inches longer than the 184cm Bibbys, no big deal. Same flex pattern, the 190s are 2 millimeters wider.

  3. Alex P December 10, 2011 Reply

    I’ve only read incredible reviews of this ski, but I’m a little skeptical of the pine wood core. Pine is a soft wood and has a much lower density than most other woods used to build skis. Has anyone had any problems with binding retention in these boards? Or, is the part of the ski underfoot composed mostly of aspen and carbon?

    Thanks,
    Alex

    • Hey Alex, nobody I know has had a binding rip out of a Bibby Pro, and I know a lot of people who ski these. Furthermore, the fact that our reviewer Joe Augusten skis these – and has never pulled a binding out – is all the reassurance I would ever need. Joe skis stupid hard (emphasis on stupid). I realize that anecdotes like these aren’t proof, but I will say: I wouldn’t worry at all about a soft core on the Bibbys.

      • Chris March 12, 2013 Reply

        My heel piece ripped out this last weekend at Baker… on a grommer. 35-40 days on them. Spoke with Moment, they have no intention of helping me out since pull-outs aren’t under warranty.

  4. Knick January 16, 2012 Reply

    Hi Guys

    First, like everyone else, please allow me to thank you for your website. It is a revelation.

    Has anyone ridden the the Line Mr Pollard Opus? If so are you able to provide a comparison with the Moment Bibby Pro?

    I find the sudden change in direction of Pollards skis somewhat confusing and seems to contradict his general design direction over the previous few years. Has he seen the light and nailed it (with his first 5Dish attempt)? Or has Pollard had to compromise?

    Any comment would be much appreciated.

    Thanks

  5. Paul February 17, 2012 Reply

    Hey Guys,

    Awesome reviews! Some of the best that I’ve found.

    I live in Alaska and I’ve been skiing the Line prophet 100s in the backcountry and on piste for the last 4 years. I skied a fat rockered pow ski in 40+ inches on monday and I’m hooked. No one really demos out here so im reliant on reviews and ordering online site unseen. I’m torn between the Armada Ak JJs and the Bibby pro. I like to ski on the faster side, but still go in the trees on steep with good pow. At alyeska always have to ski the groomers to get back to the lifts. I’m 6’1″ 200lbs.

    Thanks
    Paul

    • Will Brown February 18, 2012 Reply

      Hey Paul,

      Thanks for reading. Both the AK JJ and theBibby Pro are good options, but do have their differences. I’ve found that the Bibby handles chop and variable snow better than the JJ, as the Bibby has a rounder flex profile with stiffer tips and tails. The AK JJ, while it’s built with a slightly stiffer flex underfoot compared to the regular JJ, still has pretty soft shovels with a healthy amount of splay. As a result the JJ can get bucked around in older powder and chop more than the Bibby does. I think Moment has dialed the camber profile on the Bibby to give it a really nice, functional balance between stability and playfulness. Compared to the 190 Bibby, the AKJJ may have a slightly lighter swing-weight if that’s something you’re considering, but I’ve never had a problem throwing flips on the Bibby. For the most part, the two skis are pretty comparable when it comes to performance on groomers, though with its softer & lighter shovels the JJ may chatter more on hard snow.

      Those are the most relevant differences I can think of. Let me know if you have any other questions.

      Cheers,

      WB

  6. Paul February 19, 2012 Reply

    Thanks for the quick and insightful response. I’ve decided to go with the Bibby and just ordered it online. I can’t wait for it to arrive so I can get it out on the mountain. Hopefully the snow keeps coming we’ve had ~180 inches since Feb 1st!
    Thanks again for your help,
    Paul

  7. Tom March 19, 2012 Reply

    Size Question: Looking into these but not sure what size, 190 or 196? I’m 206lb, 6’1, advance expert skier. Tried Rossi Super 7’s this weekend in 196 and they felt great. Did notice a little bit of tip dive in heavy pow, w/ windblown crust. Was surprised a bit that had to lean back a little in those situations. But the size felt fine for ripping through trees. Don’t ski much AK lines but do want something stable enough to hit big bowls as well as tight tree pow. Not much 196 reviews on line, just 190’s and under. This will be my first fat ski. Any thoughts? Are 190s big enough for me, since I don’t really ski 5000′ vert straightline chutes?

    • Will Brown March 22, 2012 Reply

      Hi Tom,

      The 196cm version of the Bibby (called the Bibby Special or the Governor starting next season – 12/13) is not the same ski as the 184 or 190cm Bibby Pro. Josh Bibby wanted a specialized weapon for dominating huge, big mountain lines, and the 196 Bibby Special is Moment’s answer. While it is a bigger ski than the 190 Biiby Pro (in terms of material length), I’ve actually found the 190 Pro to be more stable and predictable in chop and variable conditions. You can read more of my thoughts on the Special here: http://blistergearreview.com/gear-reviews/first-impressions-moment-bibby-special-armada-ak-jj

      I don’t think the 190 will be too small for you. I’m 6’2″+ and own the 184. I don’t find it to be too short, lacking in stability, or too soft. The 190, as you might imagine, is slightly more stable at higher speeds (particularly in tracked powder) and takes a touch more work to move around in trees, but is quite manageable. As I’ve said to other readers, I think Moment has dialed the camber profile on the Bibby Pro to give it a perfect, functional balance between stability at speed and playfulness in the trees. Generally the S7 might be a bit more lively at slow speeds in the trees (given more of a pin-tail shape than the Bibby Pro), but I don’t think it can match the Bibby’s stability in crud/chop.

      You might take a look at the Special/Governor review and see what you think, though I think you’ll be very happy with the 190 Bibby Pro as a first pow board.

      Hope this helps,

      Will B

  8. Tom March 22, 2012 Reply

    Thanks for the quick response Will. Just purchased them. Now I just have to wait for another storm.